Wine Down Wednesday: Soraya Orelien

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Wine Down Wednesday: Soraya Orelien

Orion Brown (00:01):

Oh, my goodness. Hi everyone. This filter is out of control. This filter is doing the most. I don't think I need that. Let me see if I can, can I switch it? Do y'all actually want to see what I look like? Let's see what that, Ooh, that's too bright. What is that? Oh, no, we don't want that. We don't want none of that life. Oh my gosh. This filter stuff. Yeah, let's just do that. That was going to be fine. Hey. Cause that filter had me looking like crazy bright. Now I have like Puffy's and all kinds of stuff, but you know what? You got me. You got me as I am. Hey y'all Hey, let me hit this. Let me hit this right quick with the blankie and clean up the Hey, look at it right there. Now that is some fidelity. Hello? Hi everybody.

Orion Brown (00:58):

I'm getting it together. Y'all getting it together. It's Wednesday. Ooh.

Soraya Orelien (01:05):

Hello

Orion Brown (01:07):

Hello. Hello. Hello. This is like the smoothest transition. I was like over here, messing with these filters. Wait, look at this. Can, can we go from -

Soraya Orelien (01:20):

These filters being, playing games. You know?

Orion Brown (01:23):

I was just like, this just doesn't seem, that doesn't seem right, but I don't. But then also I'm like, mm mm, wait, the shadows is hitting. So I might just go back to the filter. I ain't gonna lie. It's not a lie. I told y'all where I've got the filter. Thank you so much for joining. We got people still coming in now. So did you bring some wine for wine down? Did you bring some Kool-Aid?

Soraya Orelien (01:46):

I got some wine. I have a little bit. Cause I'm working out after this, but.

Soraya Orelien (01:49):

oh, well let me just keep my filter on then cause I ain't bout to workout.

Soraya Orelien (01:57):

Yes.

Orion Brown (01:58):

I got my white wine spritzer. Hi everybody. It is Wine Down Wednesday. For those of you who don't know me, my name is Orion brown. I'm founder and CEO of BlackTravelBox and a resident wine. Oh four every Wednesday. I try to come out and bring you all, some dope guests and we just talk all things, travel in the hair. I'm here. I'm feeling, I'm feeling, I'm feeling it. Every, we talked, everything, travel. We talk about all kinds of stuff. Y'all sometimes we get political. Sometimes we just get silly. Sometimes we just talk about food. Cause you know, don't do you like that? Cause you know, we got people trying to work out after this.

Soraya Orelien (02:36):

Food is my favorite topic so we can talk about food.

Orion Brown (02:38):

But um, so I'm so happy y'all are here. Um, so the tradition is I always ask my guests to introduce themselves, tell us where you're from, where you live, how many stamps you have on your passport and then whatever you want to tell us about your, you did your nine to five, your five to nine. Yeah, whatever you got going on.

Soraya Orelien (03:03):

All right. So my name is Soraya also known as Soloraya. I am from Chicago, born and raised in New York and I currently live in Houston Texas. How many stamps? I think I have about 13 stamps. And I'm getting five more in two weeks.

Orion Brown (03:28):

Wait Five? In two weeks? Hold up. Hold up, run this back.

Soraya Orelien (03:32):

Yes. Yeah. I'm hopping around some catching them stamps, but yeah. Um, and another fun fact, I love to dance. So I do hip hop. I do chair dance. I do just so much different types of movement. That's my workout. Okay.

Orion Brown (03:51):

Okay. So you have fun, you have fun.

Soraya Orelien (03:55):

Yes, I do. I post my routines in my stories almost all the time. So if you ever want to check it out, you can always check my stories. Cause I do have my dancing routines on there.

Orion Brown (04:05):

Oh see, that feels like the perfect thing to do after a Wine Down though, like you, like you said, you can't have too much and I do have a spritzer here, so this is not all wine. It's a spritzer. So then maybe I can just like, I can watch a routine after it and get it in and say that I worked out today. I'm not mad at.

Soraya Orelien (04:23):

Yeah.

Orion Brown (04:24):

That's amazing. So tell us what, so I'm just going to casually pick up five stamps. What are you doing? What is this travel life?

Soraya Orelien (04:33):

Oh man. So I love to travel. I don't travel just because I want to post those pictures. I travel because it helps with my mental health. Travel is what I love to do. I feel at peace. I feel at home. I love to explore, learn different cultures, immerse myself in the environment in which I'm traveling to. So I'm traveling to Cairo Egypt. Then from Cairo, I'm going to Turkey, I'm hitting up Istanbul and Cappadocia Then from there, I'm going to Portugal to Lisbon. And then from there I have, um, a layover, right. I have a layover in Morocco, in Casa Blanca and I have a layover and Qatar. So yeah. So those so Qatar and Casa Blanca or layovers, but I'm still going to sightsee. So I still count though.

Orion Brown (05:25):

Oh it counts.

Soraya Orelien (05:28):

And then some things physically in, um, in Turkey and Egypt. And I'm also going to get a hotel stay in Cairo, um, in Casa Blanca, because it's a long layover. So typically airlines will, um, cover a hotel for you. If your layover is past 12 hours, just depends on the airline. And my layover is past 12 hours. So I am going to get myself a free hotel stay once I leave Casa Blanca. So yes.

Orion Brown (05:55):

Put us on game.Put us on game. We're like how do I get that free hotel. Over 12 hours layover.

Soraya Orelien (06:02):

Yeah. Some airlines. So certain airlines, it could be over eight and be over 10, 12. It just depends. Right? So you have to ask the airlines. So typically what I do is if I know I'm going to do a long, um, a long haul, I asked, Hey, do you guys offer hotel stays for, you know, long haul flights or a long way. And majority of them do majority of them don't so you just have to ask.

Orion Brown (06:27):

Got you, got you. So plan ahead, look for those opportunities, but make sure you check before you book.

Soraya Orelien (06:34):

Uh, a lot of people don't like, um, layovers I do when it comes to overseas, I don't know about domestic, but overseas. Absolutely. It gives you an opportunity to see another country while you're there, you know, for free, like I didn't have to buy a flight to travel to Qatar, you know, but I'll have eight hours to explore. I ain't buy a flight to go to Casa Blanca, but I get to explore it for 30 hours. So, you know, that's

Orion Brown (07:01):

Oh that's a long one.

Soraya Orelien (07:01):

Yeah. It's it's a whole day.

Orion Brown (07:05):

It's a whole day and an night. Like you could go back to sleep and still have time to go to the airport.

Soraya Orelien (07:08):

Exactly, exactly. So I'm like, I'm going to take advantage. I'm going to take advantage full advantage of these layovers.

Orion Brown (07:17):

And then are, is this a solo trip or are you

Soraya Orelien (07:20):

Oh, part of it is solo and part of it, my, one of my friends is coming to meet me. So she likes Turkey. So I'm going to be in Egypt, by myself and then Lisbon and the rest of my trip is going to be by myself.

Orion Brown (07:34):

That's amazing. And I love there's something really nice when you're just traveling solo. You can be like, you know what, let me go ahead and hit this layover right quick and just do whatever you want and just kind of like absorb whatever you want. What, what made you like what prompted you besides the layover? So if we take the layovers out, we still got like three different countries there. So what prompted you to book the trip the way you did? Like, why didn't you just go to one place?

Soraya Orelien (08:01):

Um, I want it to maximize my time. Um, I still do work a nine to five, so, um, I am not oftentimes lucky to just take off every single month. So if I'm able to knock out two or three countries and in two weeks, I'll do that, you know, by time. So when I booked this trip, I wasn't with my current company now. Um, so with my other company I had PTO. Right. And I have a certain amount. So I try to book my trips around holidays. So I don't have to utilize all of my PTO. I can use some of those holidays. So that's why I'm going around Thanksgiving. Cause we get those two days off.

Orion Brown (08:42):

Bonus days!

Soraya Orelien (08:42):

Yeah, exactly. So instead of it being 14 days, it's only 10 days of PTL instead of 14, you know what I mean? So I like to utilize holidays for when I travel and I like to maximize it. If I can knock out two places in one, I'll do it. You know? Um, so that's, that was my thought process with this, uh, trip that I planned. But now that I work for a company where I get unlimited PTO, now I don't have to do that as much. However, like in Europe it's like, you, you kind of have to like, when you're traveling to Europe, you want to be able to hop around, like you don't go to London and not visit Brussels or Paris or Amsterdam because they're so close and so affordable to travel, you know, to each one. Cause once you're in Europe, it's easy to hop around.

Orion Brown (09:30):

Yeah. It's like being like you you're in Philly, you got to go to New York and DC.

Soraya Orelien (09:36):

They're two hours, you know, it's two hours each way. So like you, you have to, right. So that's kind of been my thing. Whenever I travel, I try to at least knock out two places. If I'm able to, if not, then there'll be one trip. But, um, I wouldn't say I get bored over time, but um, I get bored over time, so I want to see something new. So if I'm already in one place with, okay, it sounded go to the next place.

Orion Brown (10:03):

Right, right. And that's the thing like you can, it can get, I dunno, I dunno if we take it for granted, but then it's just like, oh, I want to see more. It makes you want more. It makes you want more sort of like starchy food. It just make you want more of it. That's what I said in the comments. Do you break the bank traveling Sis? So did you break the bank doing this? I mean, obviously you got that free night, but what else, how did you kind of mitigate that?

Soraya Orelien (10:25):

You have to, um, budget yourself, right? Um, there's a lot of travel gurus who are out here that can give you all the tips on how to save, get the flight deals and everything like that. I don't do that necessarily anymore. My focus is really on. Yeah. I shifted away from the travel community. My community is self-love body positivity, mental health. That's where I, I located. Right. You could catch me in those. Um, however, travel is still part of my journey, right? So, um, I looked for deals. Okay. I look for deals when it comes to flights, when it comes to hotels, when it comes to Airbnb, I use my miles that I have with my credit card companies, you know, I utilize what I can, so I am not breaking bank. And I tried to really like work dates out. So if I know it's better for me to leave on a Sunday than a Monday, I'll leave on a Sunday.

Soraya Orelien (11:24):

You know, because sometimes hotels might be cheaper Sunday to Thursday instead of Friday to Tuesday, you know what I mean? So I play with it for myself and I maintain and I maintain that budget. So if you have unlimited funds, how do do as you please. But if you know, you only want to spend X amount of dollars for a certain trip, then you need to work with that. You need to really put, put on your hopper alerts, your Google flight tracker alerts, Skyscanner check goes those sites for flight deals. You know, if you have credit card that you earn miles and points, use that for your travel. You know what I mean? That's money that you've already spent. So now

Orion Brown (12:08):

How about, how about earn the points on the first thing? So like pay, use the card to pay for your hotel. And then if it's a flight card, they use the points you earned from the ho from the hotel purchase to purchase the flight or vice versa. It's like, get some of that money back. Give me some of that

Soraya Orelien (12:25):

Back up, right? Depends on how much you rack up. So like I rack up a lot of points cause I only use my points for need be situations. Right. I try to rack them up so that I could buy a couple of flights and a couple of hotels stays and things like that. So you really just got to look and if you're having trouble, you can always connect with, um, someone who specializes in that. Like there are so many travel curators out here who do this for a living that will help you find these deals. I know of a few. So if you need some, you could send me a DM. I could send you their pages and they'll be more than happy to help you. And they're Black Queens. Okay. Killing it on the gram, killing it in the game of the Black travel community.

Soraya Orelien (13:11):

So I love it. I go to them for insight too, because the industry is constantly changing. You know what I mean? And everybody budgets. So how I make travel might not be how, the way you travel. You know, if somebody travels Luxe, they're not gonna want to stay at a boutique hotel that may be cost, you know, that, that, that might cost $50 a day. You know what I mean? They want to spend a thousand a day because they want that Lux experience and that's totally fine. But you have to book travel based off of your budget based on what you're trying to do and how you want to travel, you know? And that's pretty much it in terms of how, at least how I do it,

Orion Brown (13:54):

It's a really good point because I think sometimes people will turn up their nose if it's like, oh, well you don't need to have that nice room because you're there to travel. You know, there'll to be in the room, but it really is about what is most cathartic for you. Like you talked about earlier, like travel is a form of self care. And so if you want to be in a pretty space while you sleep and sleep in the next day and enjoy the soft comfort and then go out and see stuff like,

Soraya Orelien (14:21):

And a lot of people say that, like I only make that difference when it's like, all right, do I get the presidential? Or like, okay,

Orion Brown (14:30):

Like give me the honeymoon suite, even though it's just me. I will take it.

Soraya Orelien (14:33):

Like I'm not going to a motel. I'm not doing that , you know what I mean? Like I'm not, I didn't, I'm not traveling to stay in somebody's motel. However, if I see that the standard room at this beautiful four or five star hotel, is saving me $800 versus getting a sweet, you know what? I would get this in because you never know, they might upgrade you when you check in for free, you know what I mean? That part or, you know, if you're a creator, if you're an influencer, you can always pitch to the hotel. They might upgrade you and give you a discount on the room. Like, you know, I, I don't settle for just what I book just because that's what I could afford at the time I could afford it. That's what I could afford. But I always try. Cause closed mouths don't get fed. So when I check in,

Orion Brown (15:21):

No,

Soraya Orelien (15:22):

Yeah. The worst thing I can say is no. Or they can say yes or they can say, you know what? I'll give you this room for one night and then we'll, we'll put you here, but for the rest of the nights, because that's what happened to me. I went to Mexico, I booked the regular standard. I little talk about a little, you know, spanish.

Orion Brown (15:42):

She said talk that talk. I talked that talk with the people.

Soraya Orelien (15:43):

You know, they upgraded me a presidential suite for one night and then upgraded me to a junior suite for the rest of my nights and it wasn't anything extra. It's all about hospitality and how you present and your greetings and how you treat people. That's essential. Um, they meet all types of different people, rude, nasty, nice kinds. You know? So when you're nice and when you're calm, you're showing that gratitude and having that positive attitude. You never know how that person on the other end of that checkout desk or check-in desk could help you out.

Orion Brown (16:19):

Yes. And the thing is, is like, sometimes it's just about what they actually have the power to do. It's like if you asked them, they're like, I don't care. It's not my place. Like, I mean, I hate to put it that way, but, and some are also like actively like, oh, I just want to be hospitable, but it's, you know, if you ask me, you just got like, you know, I just want to, I've always wanted to experience this type of room if they only have it for a day, like you said, get it for that day. Don't unpack your bag all the way. But roll four times over on that, on that California king. Enjoy yourself.

Soraya Orelien (16:46):

Exactly! Take pictures, lay in that bed, jump on it. Do what you gotta do for that.

Orion Brown (16:50):

Take your photos.

Soraya Orelien (16:52):

Listen live that life honey.

Orion Brown (16:54):

Yes. Yes. It's interesting that you talk about that, especially with like the free upgrades, because particularly with international travel, I found that it pays more to like, not unless you're like adamant that you want a specific kind of upgrade, but it pays more to get like a regular seat on the flight or, you know, kind of business class is supposed to first because sometimes when you get there, I think I was going to do buy and I got there and like the business class seat or the first class seat was like $3,000 more online or, you know, with directly with them, I get there and I go to check in and they were like, oh, this flight isn't full. Would you like to upgrade for $800? Yeah.

Soraya Orelien (17:41):

Oh my God. Now all the time people show up for their flights.

Orion Brown (17:46):

Yes. And it's not like domestic, like Southwest is always overbooked. But when you're talking about going on a flight, that's like 16 hours, tons of people switch flights.

Soraya Orelien (17:57):

Let's say I caught a deal, but it was during COVID too. But I caught a deal to go to Mexico in January, this year, first class for $400.

Orion Brown (18:07):

Oh, I've just been riding,

Soraya Orelien (18:11):

But I feel like this, I was in first class. Like thank you. So, oh wait,

Orion Brown (18:15):

Thank you. Yeah, I'll take that. I'll take that. I'll take that.

Soraya Orelien (18:18):

I'll take everything. Um, wait, um, okay. Listen. We all deserve the luxury. First-class okay. But I'm not paying $3,000.

Orion Brown (18:34):

I mean, and that's the thing and there's arbitrage for all of these, right? Like there's a way, I mean, you know, we call it the hustle, but like you and you can do it honestly. And there's nothing because at the end of the day, when they're ready to take off, they don't care what seat you're in. They really don't care what the teacher is. So how can you help them make a little coin? And you get, you get more out of it. Like,

Soraya Orelien (18:58):

And also too, like a lot of people say also too, um, I've been told and I have traveled friends that actually do this, but how you dress to the airport also could help you in certain situations, you know? Um, yep. So like dressed up, looking presentable, looking nice. They may, they may just give you that first class, if it's available or give you that extra drink or do whatever, because you are representing yourself in a way that looks, you know, appealing. Right. Whereas you becoming what? A bonnet and nothing against violence because I wear minds. Okay.

Orion Brown (19:39):

It's not even the bond. It's like, if you come in and relax or you come in like a 6:00 AM flight and you look like you're just rolling out of bed. Yeah.

Soraya Orelien (19:45):

Looking like anything, you're just looking like I'm going to the airport. They might not pay that much attention to whereas the person coming in, in the suit looking, you know, looking fresh or coming in, whatever. Right. Just look in a different way. They might treat you differently. But that goes for anything though, right? If you say

Orion Brown (20:06):

That's a really good point because you know, ultimately we talk about things like authenticity and be comfortable and all, and I want you to do that and you should do that. And if you're like, I don't feel like just enough for anybody. This is I'm worn down. This is my trip. Do that. If you happen to have a couple minutes to just kind of floss, when you come in, it can present an air. And it's, I'm not saying it's fair, but people treat you differently. It's I was watching RuPaul's masterclass and RuPaul like walks around as, as a male, as a man, outside of RuPaul, the drag queen. And he's like, if you want anything in this world, you need to come. You gonna need to come correct with like a nice suit. You just need to come correct with a nice suit and we'll get the respect and the things that you're looking for, if you show up that way. And so there's that fine line between keeping it real and also being like keeping you what I want, because keeping it real sometimes is what I really want. I want, I really want that, that seat. So I'm going to keep it real. Cause I want that seat. Right.

Soraya Orelien (21:07):

Right. And you gotta just do, what's comfortable for you. Like where we're not saying you gotta be in a suit or some heels to get a free first class now because you can do that and still don't get it

Orion Brown (21:20):

That too. Right. So it's a, it's a police, you know, you don't know. Right.

Soraya Orelien (21:25):

Because you don't know until you get there, but it's just all about how you treat people. Honestly. You know what I mean? Because you could be in sweatpants, still looking decent, but you gave that person a compliment. You just made their day not to want to return their kindness and give you, you know, business class or give you the comfort plus or, you know what I mean? Or you know what? Cause when you're on the plane, a lot of people ask, Hey, can I sit there? And nobody comes. It might just be like, yeah, go ahead all the time. And I mean,

Orion Brown (21:55):

Honestly the only thing they don't care. It's like, it's not my seat. That's fine. You know, it is what it is. You're totally right. And even if it's not a relationship game, even if you feel funny about like the whole relationship and networking and judging people up, which you know, I'm totally, it depends on the day. It honestly depends on the day you catch me. And what time this flight is. If I be sitting in traffic to get to this flight, y'all would be lucky if I am even a kind human, it's not, um, it's not you it's me just telling you what it is. But um, but even if it is transactional, you made a really great point. The worst thing they can say is no. So it's just not us now be respectful if people are like, nah, I can't do that to me. You need to know, we don't have to do all of that. But sometimes you, you never know. And it's those little things where you just go, can I get an extra glass? Can I get an extra, this

Soraya Orelien (22:51):

Sure. Here it's taken here. Like these flight attendants, they been working nonstop. Like yeah, they get to travel different places, but they're working majority of the time, dealing with customers, rude customers, all types of stuff. So look for people with good energy. They look for people, that's going to bring them some type of excitement, enjoyment to their job. You know what I mean? So if you're coming in, this [inaudible] for Kirsten. But if, if you're saying that

Orion Brown (23:18):

I've had some moments, I ain't gonna lie, But you know yeah.

Soraya Orelien (23:24):

But like I was happy about this flight. Now I'm up there with a customer that is going to give me an attitude

Orion Brown (23:33):

And it's hard. And I think it's, you know, at the end of the day, we're all human, but kindness can hurt. Especially if it's genuine. If you don't feel like it, that's your business. That's also a thing. Um, but asking, never heard anybody just ask. I love that. I love that. And you never know. Sometimes you get that hotel room that's up in the corner and you're like, this is so cute. I love this place. I'm so glad I asked.

Soraya Orelien (23:58):

Yeah. I experienced just leveled up. You know what I mean? You, you walked into it, like I'm about to get this room. I have to have this experience, man got leveled up. So now your whole mindset changed your whole orbit, but now you're going to enjoy this trip 10 times more. You know what I mean? So

Orion Brown (24:19):

I love that. And so that actually takes me to Turkey. Have you been before because Turkey is the place to ask for stuff.

Soraya Orelien (24:28):

It's it's the first time.

Orion Brown (24:29):

Oh my God. So one of the things I loved about Turkey. So, you know, when you go to different places, they have like marketplaces. There's always marketplaces and there's always hustlers. And I respect the hustle. I respect the grind jaw. Um, even when y'all tell me you got six kids at home and I'm like, it's the same thing that guy selling. So you have all them kids. Cause he only got three and it's to last longer real. I'm just keeping it real. But I really love the Bazaar in Istanbul. And you go in there because not only do you get the hustle and they're going to give you the Janet Jackson, they know you're American. So they will just think of black American women, Michelle Obama,

Soraya Orelien (25:08):

Michelle Obama,

Orion Brown (25:10):

Take it, soak it all in what they will make tea for you. So you go to the little rug shots and they trying to sell you the rugs. But they're just like, here's take this. They're like, hold on, you sit here, sit here. Let me make you some fresh hot tea. They make you the hot tea is like the pear tea and the apple tea. And you sit there and sip and they take you through everything. Girl, enjoy all of that. I enjoy all of it.

Soraya Orelien (25:32):

And when I went to, um, to Greece, I've experienced that too. You know, they love black women. They think we're beyond and think right, this, this, that, you know what I mean? And I'd take it in as long as you're not touching me or anything like that. They were, you know, because I mean, if you

Orion Brown (25:49):

Find,

Soraya Orelien (25:50):

You know, my number is, but, But you know, I take that in because we're mistreated on a day-to-day basis. So to have people that hate black beauty, black women, and you want to take care of me, you want to take off my shoes. You want to give me all the waters and the wives and the teas. I will take your honey.

Orion Brown (26:13):

What are the wines? And the teas. That's the word right there.

Soraya Orelien (26:16):

That's all I'm going to do is share my experience, talk about it and get work people to come and visit. You know what I mean? So it's better for if we're, we're both benefiting, you know what I mean? Plus it's like, you deserve to be treated with the utmost respect and loyalty

Orion Brown (26:33):

And you got that dollar. Like, let's be honest. You got that dollar doesn't mean that you looked down on people. I love one of the funny things I actually really love about travel is the arbitrage on the dollar. Like the dollar here is worth so much more than other places so I can tip you and bless you. Like truly bless you. I'm not talking about it like that. Oh, here's a dollar I'm talking about. I can give you five 10 over what you should 20 and make your week like that. You know? And I definitely have some of these places with the tourists.

Soraya Orelien (27:04):

Yeah. I'm saying like you just fed their whole entire family just by that tip. You know what I mean?

Orion Brown (27:11):

Yeah. Or that's like extra money. Like we going out this week, like, you know, it's and it's not even the charitable side of it. It's just the, I like to eat. I'm not, I ain't made it yet like that. I ain't made it like yet where I could just be like here a thousand dollar tip. Go ahead. You get yourself something nice. So it's kind of nice to be able to do that in other countries. And whether it's a third world, whether it was a European country and we just happened to have a stronger dollar. I'm like, let me just, especially if you cool, especially if you treat me right, like I want to be able to bless you. And that is one of the fun things about travel because the us dollar don't want to do nothing to us, but it do a whole lot across

Soraya Orelien (27:49):

Talk about it so far in Greece. I was like, I love this.

Orion Brown (27:57):

So tell us about Greece. I I've never been. So I would love to hear what took you to Greece and like, how did you kind of structure that trip and like, what was, what were some of the highlights?

Soraya Orelien (28:08):

Oh, Greece. I went back in 2017 girls trip and I was the one that plans it.

Orion Brown (28:16):

Oh, okay. The planners

Soraya Orelien (28:17):

Here. Yeah, it was said I don't curate travel guys, but I got you if you want to. But I did print that check. So what I did was I booked the Villa. So I got the love for the love. When I tell you the low,

Orion Brown (28:35):

What? No, what's the low, let's talk some numbers.

Soraya Orelien (28:37):

I went for 10 days. I've been girls. You talking about a three-story Villa elevator pool, two kitchens, two living rooms, a bar, um, a play area, you know, a jacuzzi, uh, Japan, uh, three balconies pinned

Orion Brown (28:59):

Like several thousand solar at this point.

Soraya Orelien (29:01):

Right. So how much you think we would have paid for that?

Orion Brown (29:06):

I don't know. I mean like, I would have been like 23 for the week, maybe 23, 20 3,900.

Soraya Orelien (29:13):

Wow.

Orion Brown (29:15):

Like a couple of, I mean, cause some of these places can be a couple thousand a night, right? No. Or, or five, you know, what did y'all end up paying what? Y'all end up paying 1400.

Soraya Orelien (29:25):

So

Orion Brown (29:26):

1400 in total per

Soraya Orelien (29:28):

Person. No. And total

Orion Brown (29:31):

Roller bag. So, uh, a couple, several, few thousand square feet. We've got balconies got all of this. You got seven girls, you got 10 nights and you pay $1,400 for this

Soraya Orelien (29:47):

Belay.

Orion Brown (29:48):

You didn't like catch salmonella. The second you walked in, like it was legit when you got there.

Soraya Orelien (29:52):

He did, first of all, where we got to, to grease our holes, he picked us up two cars. He got us flowers, flowers, okay. With my name [inaudible], you know what I mean? And I'm like, I love this hospitality we got in there. You know what I mean? Like I got us a shaft and the muscles. So we had a chef for three nights. We had a most Seuss, you know, we did different activities. We enjoyed the Villa, um, 1400, um, like 1460 something. You know what I mean? But before surgery, um, and um, our flight was 5 80, 89, 79

Orion Brown (30:37):

In New York though. Right?

Soraya Orelien (30:39):

From New York. Jasmine

Orion Brown (30:42):

Got all the cheap flights, but they never had air conditioning

Soraya Orelien (30:45):

To work Jersey

Orion Brown (30:48):

And wr got you,

Soraya Orelien (30:51):

Which is one of the best airlines to fly and we flew economy, but it was so comfortable. Um, we were still with the same respect. Um, we got like little goodie bags when we got into the airplane sleeping, my socks, toothbrush, toothpaste, we got some sun bulls, you know like, so in total the trip was about six, $700. Just the flight and the Airbnb.

Orion Brown (31:17):

Oh right. Cause y'all split that. Oh my God. That's insane. That is insane. That is the thing. I want to take a pause because I noticed I, we got hi. Sylvia was like, Hey, lots of love from Northern Ireland. And I don't know if y'all saw me do this. Cause I was like, is this a black ship?

Soraya Orelien (31:37):

Hey girl, make sure you follow me for me to connect. I love Ireland people in different countries. So I'm trying to make my way out there.

Orion Brown (31:45):

I really, it is so dope. It's so dope. It's one of my top, not even top five, top three favorite places on the planet. It is gorgeous. Wow. It is gorgeous. Yes. It is gorgeous out there. I mean like you go out and you're like walking in a field and you're like, why is the grass like a color green than my eyes? Can't even like, it's just like, you're like, it's just so green. It looks fake.

Soraya Orelien (32:12):

Ooh. Oh.

Orion Brown (32:15):

I mean, because it's like, if you've ever been to London, it's kind of like, I think, yeah. But the thing that I actually really love, I love the stews. So like when it's like the lamb stews and stuff like that with the soda bread and the butter gets get down with that. I can eat that in the morning. I think I've done the Irish breakfast. It's interesting. That's just my personal face. By the way. I'd rather drink a Guinness for breakfast. Anyway, let me just keep it real. Let me just keep it real. Like if you give me a Guinness, you're like I have sunny side up eggs and black pudding or a Guinness. I'm going to be like, I'm going to drink the Guinness and I'll be happy. Not mad at all. So it is like go to Ireland though. It's absolutely gorgeous. And I

Soraya Orelien (33:03):

I'm a big foodie. Like I need to eat good when I'm traveling. I need to eat good. And in Greece, all my God, food is amazing. First of all, they have like six course meals. So when we had our chef, she literally made two appetizers, two entrees. We were like full off the second appetizer and this is a wine for every pairing. So we're like, hold on, see you back in the United States of America.

Orion Brown (33:34):

We ain't got like that. We want to get, we don't roll it back. And so you got, because you had such a great deal on the house. You could bring in things like a personal Masood as a personal chef. What was the deal with the personal chef? Like did your,

Soraya Orelien (33:50):

I did, um, it was $80 each because we did, um, we did three days of her coming in to cook. So one was, um, so they were all dinner, but different styles. So Greek, Italian and American, I think, I can't remember what the other one was.

Orion Brown (34:09):

You know, she cooked them all like fire. I bet it was all fire.

Soraya Orelien (34:13):

Wow. We barely ate out because we have so much leftovers. Like we were and the muscles was I think, 70 or $60 per person. And it was an hour for each girl. So he wasn't saying seven hours.

Orion Brown (34:31):

You just say, because I love Greek people and I dated a Greek boy in high school. So I can say this Greek people are like down and like, they'll be like, oh you, oh, you, you paying 60 bucks for this. Let me make sure you get the most out of the $60. Right.

Soraya Orelien (34:45):

They take care of you. Like we did not have to lift a finger.

Orion Brown (34:51):

Like this might need to be

Soraya Orelien (34:52):

45. Andy was the best host I've ever had. Literally like he was down, down. Okay. He would have picked us up, dropped us off. He made sure that we was well taken care of. Like, it was just amazing. Um, Greece was a lot of fun. It was beautiful to see all of these, um, you know, artifacts and architecture, reading books that you never really seen in real life, you know, to see

Orion Brown (35:25):

Is a real place. You just read it.

Soraya Orelien (35:30):

Um, it's real as hell, but I went to Rome and I saw the Coliseum and I'm like, this is it. I mean, it's something special, special on our side, but oh my God, I made it like,

Orion Brown (35:43):

It's been there for so long,

Soraya Orelien (35:47):

You know, like, wow. They used to have fights in here or war in here and this and that, like armored suits and everything like, like water I've seen the Mediterranean city is beautiful. Like you can literally drink that water it's so it's like a nice rich, deep blue, you know, like yeah. Three islands in Greece. And um, which always did you

Orion Brown (36:15):

Go to? Um,

Soraya Orelien (36:16):

I, we took a one day cruise, so it was two portals at Dina's and hydras. Um, and those three islands are a little bit off of Athens and, um, they're Catholic. Um, they have like the donkeys, they have different marketplaces and shops and foods and just so much like little islands, you know what I mean? There's just so beautiful. Um, and your dollar definitely stretches there. So if you ever wanna go to Greece yeah.

Orion Brown (36:42):

That's what's up and you got, you got a really good deal. And I mean, so for those of you who are not in New York, like I lived in New York for awhile, the deals would be crazy, especially coming out of JFK. I just feel like JFK is like the junkiest airport, but it's such a big international hub that everything comes in and out of there and you can find amazing deals. So even if you here's now here's, here's the tip y'all. If you're living in another part of the country, get you a cheap flight, cheap, cheap flights to New York, like one like, you know, get on Fred's here, get on Southwest, get to JFK and I can get your flight out.

Soraya Orelien (37:19):

Yeah. So, because I live in Houston, the flights to go to Egypt was ridiculous. So it was cheaper for me to fly to New York because I use my miles. So it was $0 for me of JFK to go to my destinations. So yeah.

Orion Brown (37:37):

And then you booked them separately, right? Cause like that's

Soraya Orelien (37:41):

Ticket to New York last week. So,

Orion Brown (37:44):

Well, it's funny because it's like, what they'll do is if you're like at a city that is not a major hub and doesn't have direct flights, they will still have your flight going through these major hubs. But your flight will be hella expensive. What is way cheaper? Just to book your flight to that location, to have a five, six hour layover each have some lunch or whatever you need to do or, and then get on that international flight from there because that's where the deals come from. It's not,

Soraya Orelien (38:15):

If you guys checked out secret flying.com that has the deals last year. Remember it? I don't know if you guys remember, but everybody was talking about that hundred dollar flight to go to Morocco. The total. I know five of them, people that actually went legit. Okay. And

Orion Brown (38:35):

It wasn't so clean. Like it wasn't bumping in the sky or nothing like that.

Soraya Orelien (38:40):

No, no, no. Cause they want people to come. You know what I mean? So secret flying is a great website to find good flight deals. You just put in your city and you put everywhere and you'll gives you flight deals on everywhere. Literally like, um, my gosh, pull it up real quick. But um, but yeah, like, um, I was supposed to go to El Salvador in August before I started my job and I got my flight for 180 because of secret flying 180

Orion Brown (39:13):

Grit flying.com stop.

Soraya Orelien (39:16):

Yes.

Orion Brown (39:17):

I don't know nothing about this. I ain't affiliated or nothing, but I'm about to check it out. I don't know about y'all I'm going to check it out. I'm trying to figure out what I'm doing for 40. I said I was going to go to carnival, but I be eating all these carbs. So I just need to go somewhere else,

Soraya Orelien (39:33):

Eating all these cars,

Orion Brown (39:35):

All these carbs. And I hadn't heard of him, my low carb wine. And he was like eating, um, fried rice. Uh, cause you know, we, we just, it's all about balance. It's all about balance

Soraya Orelien (39:46):

Right here. Oh. If you're in fear for a look instable, right? So let me go back to that other deals. If you're in San Francisco, you could fly to Hawaii for 1 98 to two round trip

Orion Brown (40:02):

Round trip. That's

Soraya Orelien (40:03):

Crazy. Literally, if you're in New York, you can put in New York, y'all going to go real tutorial right here on this line, taking you

Orion Brown (40:13):

Anywhere

Soraya Orelien (40:14):

And you search literally you will see flight deals. Woo.

Orion Brown (40:19):

Oh son, hold up. Let me, let me pull up my, so this is a secret flying.com

Soraya Orelien (40:25):

Secret flying.com

Orion Brown (40:28):

All the way. Start up. Forget you. Let me turn this up. The computer. Look, I got three computers over

Soraya Orelien (40:31):

Here, secret

Orion Brown (40:34):

Flying.com. I love that. I love that. So is this how you put together your itinerary? Like

Soraya Orelien (40:42):

Yeah. So I look at the deals first. I look at deals first, right?

Orion Brown (40:48):

And you make the deals work together. If you want to go to more than one place.

Soraya Orelien (40:52):

So I do one ways,

Orion Brown (40:55):

Uh, from each location.

Soraya Orelien (40:58):

So you

Orion Brown (40:58):

Find the first deal and you're like, okay, that's done

Soraya Orelien (41:02):

What the one way look like? Right? So for an example, I also use Google flight. So let's go to Google flight on

Orion Brown (41:10):

Point though, I feel like they find a lot of stuff that

Soraya Orelien (41:13):

Google flight is pretty much on point with all the other ones mean also too. When you're looking for flights, you want to look in incognito mode. Um, because then it doesn't save your, um, your cookies and stuff. So like for an example, say, I want to fly domestically, but hop around. I can go to, um, Los Angeles for $23. Some people don't mind flying spirit. So I'm not going to knock spirit because some people actually do like to fight spirit

Orion Brown (41:45):

[inaudible] You don't need nothing. You don't need no backpack or anything

Soraya Orelien (41:49):

From Bush airport to lax is $23. So let's stay. I want to go to Los Angeles to, I don't know, to, to, to Vegas. Right? I want to just make it, uh, uh, last trip. I can go from Los Angeles to Vegas for $31 with jet blue. You know what I mean? And then for

Orion Brown (42:08):

Again, this jet blue, we don't get that out here in Denver. And it makes me really sad.

Soraya Orelien (42:12):

So if I want it to go to a loss, you know, from Los Angeles to Denver, Colorado, you know, that's $49 with dumps on

Orion Brown (42:21):

Sun and don't let you have a double car. The $49 ticket is non-existent. It's just you just zero that out. Cause you don't use points.

Soraya Orelien (42:28):

Yeah. I'm going to use chlorine. So that's exactly what I'm doing next week, actually next week. And I'm about to show you guys another hat too. Okay. I got my lights off in my apartment cause we pay light bills here. So we gotta,

Orion Brown (42:45):

I only pay for flights, not for light.

Soraya Orelien (42:48):

So I'm going to Vegas in two weeks, just for a couple of days. I just want to get away reset my mind. So I had a flight credit with spirit, so my flight credit covered my, my travel. So out to, um, to Las Vegas, which was $80. Okay. And I told myself, I'm not paying for a check bag or carry on. So what I did do was I got myself a bag that has been approved for spirit as a personal item.

Orion Brown (43:19):

So show us this bag. Here's the

Soraya Orelien (43:22):

Bag For $12 on Amazon. You can literally fit five outfits, two pairs of shoes, all your toiletries, like, and I'm about to show you a real quick.

Orion Brown (43:35):

And while you pull that stuff in there. So Sylvia, she said, it's spirit that bad in Europe. We heard so many jokes, but we don't have it. You know what you have? Y'all have Ryan air in Ireland. Ryan air is to me, soul playing janky. Like you get on there, they just take your bag and kick it on the plane. They don't even bother to pick it up.

Soraya Orelien (43:58):

I already have three outfits in here, guys. It properly,

Orion Brown (44:04):

It looks like a old school. Like, you know when you're in like seventh grade or you need like a little duffle bag for gym class, like that's what it it's just like a little nice little duffle.

Soraya Orelien (44:14):

I literally just put in four outfits, get my little bag.

Orion Brown (44:20):

He said, look, I have a whole thing. I got a whole set up

Soraya Orelien (44:24):

Real quick.

Orion Brown (44:26):

Oh snap. Okay. We're doing a

Soraya Orelien (44:32):

Whose shoes. I can't travel without perfume, honey. So we got to pack a perfume and perfume and the 3.5 fluid ounces.

Orion Brown (44:41):

Oh you put your black travel box in there too. Cause we're under 3.5 ounces.

Soraya Orelien (44:46):

You know what? I might sneak another outfit just because I need some options. Right. I'm ready to go to the folder on the way.

Orion Brown (44:52):

So yes. File an asset. This will be saved. Yes. We're going to put it in an IgG lab. I got y'all. I got y'all aren't going anywhere. Right, right now Chloe's like, where are you going? Right right now she, she just showing us to dentistry. Look at that right there.

Soraya Orelien (45:05):

I've been in here. Two pairs of shoes, my toiletries for feelings and this bag as a personal item and spirit.

Orion Brown (45:14):

Boom. I love it. I love it.

Soraya Orelien (45:16):

Boom, up dollars, $12 and have this forever or pay $40 for a carry on and 80 for a checked bag.

Orion Brown (45:27):

Not today, Satan,

Soraya Orelien (45:30):

You know, like not today saying like people talk about spirit, but for some people they liked the affordability. You know what I mean? Like they want to pay cheaper prices for flights. So the only option then that's the only option. You know what I mean? Like I wasn't trying to pay $300 to go to Vegas. No, absolutely not. You know? Um, don't knock certain airlines just because everybody else is knocking them. You gotta work. What's best for you and what's in your budget and what flight credits you have and things of that nature. You know what I mean?

Orion Brown (46:07):

Yeah. And it depends on the length of the flight. If you're doing a flight and it's like two hours or less three hours or less. Why, why stress? The comfort level? 8, 10, 12, 20.

Soraya Orelien (46:20):

Okay. Now I need to fly Delta and comfortable, but something like this, whereas really quick. And I'm not even bringing much with me. Yeah. You know, that's that,

Orion Brown (46:33):

I love it. I love it. Y'all y'all got at first here, I feel like this is the news. We see it in over here. Relax that

Soraya Orelien (46:39):

You guys get to get first hand

Orion Brown (46:41):

Firsthand. So, so you're about to go on his trip. Um, and I know we're like, we're getting up. Well it sorry, 15 after. Oh my gosh. We've been on 45 so quick. So one, you go into Kapha dosha, right? So you're going to be in Turkey and Kapha dosha where they have. And for those of y'all who don't know where that is, it's sort of like he Stearns herky and they have like all the hot air balloons. Have you ever seen like the pictures of folks in Turkey with a hot air balloons? Like one, are you trying to have a photo shoot there or a photo op and then two, how are you packing for this trip that you're going to so many different places and the climates are fairly different that you're going. So I'm packing opposite. I could

Soraya Orelien (47:25):

Interchange. Um, so my jeans and pants, because some of the quizzes are a moderate. Like I have to dress this, you know, I'm bringing, I'm packing a lot of jeans, pants, um, like plain tops that I can enter, you know, that, that I could change around. I'm only bringing one suitcase and won't carry on that set. So I believe utilize. So I'm going to get packing cubes

Orion Brown (47:48):

To put my album, love. Packing cubes are the best

Soraya Orelien (47:50):

Also to the vacuum seal bags. They work as well too. So you can fit like 5, 6, 10 outfits in them, little bags that can seal it. And you're good to

Orion Brown (48:03):

Forget it. You're good.

Soraya Orelien (48:04):

So I like to bring a lot of clothes because I mean actions and I took a lot of pictures, so at least I have my options so I can photo op and change and boom, boom, boom. That's my content because I'm a content creator as well. So I want to be able to make use of my time. Thank you very much. Thank you. Make use of my time while I'm there and my outfits.

Orion Brown (48:28):

I love that one too for me. Cause when I went to the UAE before, it's, it's less about the base outfit you have on and more about if you have a good shawl, that's like cute. That can be so versatile in so many ways where, because oftentimes it's like, if you're going into a temple or something like that, you just need to cover up for a few minutes. Cause it's hot as hell. It's hot as hell on the UAE. I haven't been to cutter yet, but I've been to Dubai and Abu Dhabi. And sometimes it's just nice to have like that shawl. So you can, once you're back out in the sun and everything, like people are a little fairly lenient, especially in Dubai because Dubai is, is Vegas with like Muslims on the outskirts. And I don't mean that low shade. Like they literally are like, do what you want. We got walls for that. Like we'll just stay back here.

Soraya Orelien (49:18):

Yeah. And I'm not

Orion Brown (49:19):

Mad at them,

Soraya Orelien (49:20):

But I'm buying like a traditional drives when I get to Egypt and like the head wraps and everything. Like I want that cause I want to respect their culture as well. Um, so a lot of the clothes that I'm packing, it's modest clothes. Turkey is free for all because Turkey is not as modest as

Orion Brown (49:40):

It depends on where you're at in Turkey. But yes, Turkey was definitely one of those places that it's like, we want to be a part of Europe. So we're trying to be more progressive. But then depending on where you're at, I'm sure Kappa dosha and its symbol get enough tourists that is sort of relative to.

Soraya Orelien (49:55):

So like I was thinking with a tour guide and he's like, it's going to be very cold and November just so you know. And I'm like, yeah, I know I got it's bad.

Orion Brown (50:05):

But then again, it's also very cold for them. So you, you know you from Chicago, you live in New York, you know, cold coal. That means fall cold. Not,

Soraya Orelien (50:17):

Yeah. I like the cold. I'm always hot.

Orion Brown (50:22):

And Sylvie says, she said, don't forget a spare shower cap for your shoes. Cause it's dusty and Turkey. That's a smart, smart tip. So you come in and your shoes are all dusty. You put them in the shock and they don't mess up everything else in your bag.

Soraya Orelien (50:36):

Okay. Thank you for saying, I like that. So like clear shower. I'm going to go to dollar tree and get that.

Orion Brown (50:44):

Even just the hotels. If you're not going to use a hotel, shower caps and just make sure you're taking them with you, right? Like as you're going and grab one and throw it in there. So you can put your bag, your,

Soraya Orelien (50:55):

We want a lot of tours and moving around and stuff like that. And I am bringing some sneakers, but I'm not going to bring my good ones because I'm missing those.

Orion Brown (51:05):

Sometimes it's nice to bring like some Amazon kicks that are cute, but you know, they're not going to make it through the trip. Like they just there to be cute in a few shots and keep you from your feet hurt because you can't, you can't go cheap on the shoes. If you're doing a lot of walking, that's one thing I will say. It may not be a fancy shoes, but you need the shoe. At least the way my feet are set up

Soraya Orelien (51:27):

And arthritis. I be comfortable shoes.

Orion Brown (51:30):

All of that. I'm over here with the hushpuppies I'm over here with the easy spirits. I'm just like, we can be cute for two minutes. I slide on, I'll bring some shoes to be cute in a photo, but that's about it.

Soraya Orelien (51:41):

I wear the heels too. And then my flax is white. Leave my arms ready to put on because

Orion Brown (51:48):

I love it. This has been, so this has been so much fun. It's been so rich. We've gotten so many tips before we like wrap up, uh, where can we find you? Where can we see these shenanigans? I hope you have shenanigans on the interwebs number one. So where can we see these shenanigans for this trip? Because we don't have to be watching.

Soraya Orelien (52:08):

Yes. I will be posting my trip and journey. I don't post in real time just because for safety,

Orion Brown (52:14):

But that's another tip right there. People do not post where you're at when you are there.

Soraya Orelien (52:19):

Yeah. So when I get to Egypt, I will be recording live. But when I traveled to my next destination, I'll, you know, show each other and everything like that. I'm very adventurous, very funny and everything. So y'all go and see everything. I love to eat. Talk to people, just everything. So you can follow me on Instagram. If you click down where it says, write down Wednesday, clicked on button. You can just follow me right then and there. Um, you could see all of my travel shenanigans. Okay. Um, or that Papi we'll be doing a live while I'm there in the flash. So you guys could see what I see. Like I said, I do a lot of self-care body positivity, um, mental health, um, topics or look, flight information right here. I do a lot of like a lot of my content and my brand is based off of that. So when I do travel, I focus on how you can still self care while traveling, um, for, for more Kirby limit. Cause I'm, I'm a curvy girl. So show you clothes that you could wear the Kirby guard while traveling and how to maintain your mental health wise. So traveling. Um, so you're not suppressing or taking what happened at home on to get trip.

Orion Brown (53:35):

You don't want to do that. Cause that trip is there for you to release, relax, relate, release,

Soraya Orelien (53:40):

Uh, let go with, I'm not going to be releasing and still holding on. So

Orion Brown (53:47):

What's your number one? Um, sort of, um, mental health hack for traveling, no matter where you're going, like what's the one thing it's like, if you do nothing else, do this

Soraya Orelien (53:57):

Sleep. Ooh. Believe, you know, a lot of us forget to sleep on vacation because we're so excited to be willing to do everything in the world and everything, but you can't be productive and you can't show up if you're tired, so sleep it's okay. Leave for a couple hours. It's not a problem because that's still going to be there. I'd rather you be raw WestEd and you're able to function and move around, especially in countries where you have to travel long distance or walk long or whatever versus you being exhausted. And you're not able to fully enjoy the experience because you're so tired and now you have a headache now you're hungry now you're this like no rest eat. And then rest get to your regular gala. They'll be making you follow me. And we could talk girl, cause you hello? Yes.

Orion Brown (54:53):

Yeah. I love it. I love it.

Soraya Orelien (54:55):

Well that I talk about stuff like this as well. So yeah.

Orion Brown (54:59):

You know what? It's, there is nothing like a good breakup to get a good vacation. I mean, it just kinda cleanse you get a cleanse your whole thing. Oh my gosh. Um, so this has been awesome. I mean, I think we've gotten more education and more tips than we've ever gotten in a wind down. I've made it through my entire glass to go work it and work it out, you know? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much for joining us. We've been having folks in the comments. They've the comments been popping. Thank you all for joining us as always. Oh, the penthouse and mighty era. Ooh. Okay. That's a no right there. Um, where's that? So hold on. Oh no, this is a new one. Okay. I believe that is um, Western Turkey. Yeah. Or no am I wrong Sylvie where we talking about she's November breakups. So yes, the tips please. Oh, no, that's not it. That's not Turkey. I'm sorry. I can't remember what country that is. Some of what country it is. Yeah,

Soraya Orelien (55:58):

No,

Orion Brown (55:59):

Look, look, inquiring minds. Want to know unless you go for, to go

Soraya Orelien (56:03):

Enlisted or that's the city.

Orion Brown (56:05):

Yeah, that's the city. That's

Soraya Orelien (56:07):

The city. Okay.

Orion Brown (56:09):

I ain't mad at that at all. I ain't mad at it. The sabbatical queen was like Mrs. Portugal. I know she told me, she told me, I got you look at the globe. I hope this was fun for y'all. Again, wind down is all about just, you know, having fun, having a good conversation, getting excited, helping each other out. Um, just enjoying the beauty that is travel once again. My name is Ryan Brown, founder and CEO of black travel box. I'm so, so, so happy to be able to bring this to you and to our guests. Oh my God, girl. So much fun. This was so much fun talking to you. And by the way, y'all she was a pinch hitter because we had somebody else schedule and she slept in, in her absence like nobody's business. So I appreciate you so much. And this was so good. It was so, so good. Thank you so much for joining us.

Soraya Orelien (57:04):

Thank you so much for having me. We had a great time time flew by a fast,

Orion Brown (57:10):

Quick hour hour

Soraya Orelien (57:13):

That I was able to give you guys some tips. So like I said, secret flying.com for your flights. Okay? And if you want to travel to multiple destinations, you want to do it either one way or do a round trip and pick a hub, right? So if your hub is going to be New York city and you want to travel around the DMV, then make sure you get a round trip ticket for a good deal in New York city, man, you can get a car or hop on the mega bus and get your way around or overseas, right? If London or Singapore is your HubSpot do that because sometimes it might be cheaper than doing the one way. Do you know what I mean? So you have to play with the pricing and play with everything to see what's going to work for you. Okay? If you need help, you can always send me a DM and I can guide you to the right person who can help you with that type of stuff. But guys have fun, travel safe. Don't be afraid if you haven't traveled at all, do it. There are so many flight deals coming up. There are many good prices out here. Gone secret flying secret trips up for next year. Don't hold back. You only live one life. Okay? That's the big Yolo.

Orion Brown (58:26):

That's the perfect place to close. Somebody asks are these lives saved. Yes, this will be on our IETV at black travel box. So follow us. And you'll see when it's posted, this has been so dope. This is wine down Wednesday. We have wind down. We can stretch our next week and breathe. We've gotten some great gyms. I can't wait to see you guys again next week. Thank you so much for joining. Thank

Soraya Orelien (58:49):

You guys.

Orion Brown (58:51):

Bye. Have a good night safe travels. Thank you.