Aired: September 15th, 2021
Audio and Photo Source: Ronda Wright and Instagram
For this Wine Down Wednesday we welcome back Wright Getaway Founder, Ronda Wright. This time she let us in on the experience that gave her the travel bug, made the the travel guru she and set course for her to create her successful travel business we know today. This WDW is juicy, filled to the brim with topics of spirituality, human connectivity, the Black experience, womanhood, and of course travel.
Wine Down Wednesday: Ronda Wright
Speaker: Orion Brown 00:00
Oof. It's really bright. Is that too? Yeah, that's too bright. Let's go there. How does that feel guys? Does that feel the right brightness? These are pajamas. I'm not even going to lie, but they're really cute and I'm here for them, Hi. Hey people. It's Orion, for those of you who don't know me, I am the founder and CEO of Black Travel Box and this is Wine down Wednesday, go get something to drink. Go and get something to drink. Someone said "Who am I going live with today?" I'm going live with a dope dope lady Ronda Wright of the Wright Getaway, come through. Come through y'all, grab your drink, does not have to be alcoholic. [not clear] if you want to, but put it in a pretty glass. By the way, this is like $1 store glass so don't feel any kind of way. It's not the latest thing. Hey!
Speaker: Ronda Wright 00:56
Speaker: Orion Brown 00:57
What's going on boo?
Speaker: Ronda Wright 00:59
Nothing, I love your hair.
Speaker: Orion Brown 01:00
Thank you. It's back. The summer is gone and my real hair is back. It's trying to pop, is trying to pop up. I'm like fluffing it as much as I can. I think the back is still wet. I ain’t gonna lie.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 01:12
It's cute, you're rocking it. You're rocking it.
Speaker: Orion Brown 01:16
Hey, Miss Ronda, how are you?
Speaker: Ronda Wright 01:19
Doing well, it's Wednesday.
Speaker: Orion Brown 01:23
Girl, it’s so Wednesday. I can't tell y'all how much I look forward to wine down Wednesday. Now sometimes I get a little anxious because I have to come and show up and be prepared and all that stuff. But there's something to be said for just the time that we get to shoot the shit and kick it that just does well for my soul. So, if it doesn't go well for rest y'all I mean I'm sorry because it’s doing well for me. I love it. I love it. Chloe, is Chloe NG54? Or am I reading this wrong? Happy Wednesday. Happy Wednesday. Thank you. Someone said my hair is super cute. I think your hair is super cute too, aww, out here with the slick slick. I see you with the slick.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 02:10
Thank you. Thank you. I had to at least brush it before coming on…
Speaker: Orion Brown 02:14
You didn't have to do anything you could show up. In your just woke up queenliness, or in your I've been working all day, and whatever you want to because this is a space of acceptance. I'm so excited to have you here. It's been a minute since we got to like do wine down.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 02:31
I know. I know. And I'm happy to be back. Hello to everybody that's on.
Speaker: Orion Brown 02:37
Y'all. So, Ronda is my go-to. I talked with a lot of travel gurus, folks who set up trips folks who consider themselves travel agents, those who run travel groups but Ronda is my Ace boon, coon, I'm sorry, I have to say it that way because that's just, it is what it is, it what it is.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 02:58
Speaker: Orion Brown 02:59
And she's been helping me on a lot of projects, many of you know that we were going to do an event out in wine country in California, she was helping me figure that out, then everybody got cooties. And I was like, “Yo, hold it off.” So, it's going to come back in the spring. And I'm so excited. Many have heard me say I'm turning 40. I'm excited about it. And I'm doing as many trips as I can. But the goal for 40 next year is four trips, one to celebrate each decade. And like legit, hardcore, this is a trip, I will be off grid, there will need to be photos. And one of the big ones and we'll get into this in a minute. One of the big ones is Aratica 03:40 already told her, be ready with the link. Because, I want to kick it with some polar bears and some penguins and some negros in a place that's very white and not white in the way that we're used to in America. I just want ice. I just want to be out there. For those who don't know you, we normally do our intro, we do like the passport stance and all that you've already done that I think a couple times. Now I've been out a couple times, I think a couple times. So, I would love for you to do Introduce yourself. Tell everybody who you are, where you're from, where you live, and then give us your first best memory of travel.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 04:24
Okay. So, hello everyone. I'm Ronda Wright the founder of the Wright getaway. My baby is almost two years old; I cannot believe it. I have been planning trips and organizing vacations for people for at least 14 years and finally decided that “I think I got something here.” So, and it's something that I enjoy doing and I do it my way. So, I absolutely love what I do. It's a passion that I have, and that's why I have this business on top of what I do from 7:30 to about 5pm evreyday.
Speaker: Orion Brown 05:10
She ain’t even going to lie and say it’s a 9 to 5, yeah, good part of her day and she's still out here slaying travel. I'm very excited about.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 05:21
Yes. So, my first happy memory of travel or memorable time, is I had my first out of the country experience when I was 16 or yeah, I think I was 16 years old. So, I'm a former athlete. So, in high school, I was recruited to play on an international softball team. So, the entire summer, yes. So, the entire summer.
Speaker: Orion Brown 05:55
You famous. You out here being famous internationally balling and stuff, okay, I see. Cheers to that.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 06:00
That entire summer I spent in Amsterdam, playing against German teams, everybody just kicked our butt all over plays. But the memory is like, little black girl, I live in Atlanta now. But I didn't grow up in Atlanta, I grew up in rural Georgia, little black girl that, came from small town living in a trailer on a dirt road. And this stuck with me. And it just felt so it was so eye opening, when most people around me only got to go to Florida or they might have gone to Tennessee. So, to be out of the country, and to be hearing other languages, trying foods I've never seen seeing art that we talked about in school. Phenomenal, and it just drove this energy in me. That hasn't gone away.
Speaker: Orion Brown 07:15
Yeah, I love that. And, I hate to and I don't want to ever make the black experience like this monolith thing, because we all have grown up in different places with different means and things like that. That said, on average, we wouldn't say the average black experience in the United States, many of us have not had that kind of exposure. And the reason why travel is so impactful for people who have access to it from a young age who had passports before they were born. Like that kind of stuff. Like is like soon as baby was out, like snap a picture. And which by the way, let's be clear, our Caribbean brothers and sisters often have that our African brothers and sisters often have that because their families have means to travel, and they expect their kids to do it. But to be a black American, and to have a routing here. And to go abroad has so much more exponential meaning the first time you do it.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 08:15
Oh, yeah. And I tell you, it was like, I'm just be honest, with normal business out here today. But my family, like so I was on this international softball team, but you had to pay like for your uniform, or like it was a certain amount that you had to come out of pocket. And we have no money like that. And my mom's looking at me like, “Well, what are we doing here?” My community came together and put-up money, churches. Some of the businesses in the area all put up money, so I could go play on my team and spend the summer in Amsterdam. I mean, people saw that as “You know what, that this is going to be good for this girl, let's invest in her.”
Speaker: Orion Brown 09:10
And the crazy thing is, is now we're years later, only a few because you basically 15 right now, only a few years later, you're in a position to create experiences for people and they may have had great experiences, but you're still in this position now with this passion for travel, to create experiences for people that are just bespoke. And y'all I'm not saying this to like sell it, I'm just telling you because I know Ronda and this is how she thinks about it and she kicked me if I'm wrong, but there’s something very, we can all go on a tourist trip. We can all find a tourist trip that's cheap and easy, and it may be fun because we've never done it before. But to find an experience that is tailored to who we are as a person and moves us in special ways. Yeah, that's a cry. I mean sometimes we do sometimes we get in the water we like the ocean We do that. But even just to have an experience where we can deepen our relationships with the human condition in ways that fit our personality, some of us don't want to meet a whole bunch of people. But we might want to like bond with our Airbnb host, or we want to bond with a specific tour guide or things like that. To have somebody that can help steward us through that is, I think, a blessing. I think it's a blessing and so for people to have, empowers you to get that first experience to spark that love of travel. I just think that they don't… people don't realize the seeds, they plant, especially young people was like, “Oh, she just went on this trip.” “She's got a free trip at us.” Don't sell it short, because you never know how not only that person's life has changed, but the lives that they're going to change from having had that experience.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 10:54
Absolutely. Absolutely. I can't tell you how many people I've met, while traveling, especially to countries that are, I guess, first world and you meet them, and you have conversations with them. And it's like everything to them. There's a person that I met in the Dominican Republic that I still will keep in touch with because they're just like, “Oh my gosh, tell me about this.” “Look at this for me, give me some ideas” like I mean to have access, they feel like his access. You just don't even understand sometimes how you're touching people just by walking and interacting with them when you're in other places.
Speaker: Orion Brown 11:43
Just by showing up there.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 11:46
Speaker: Orion Brown 11:47
Just by showing up. One of the things that… Oh go ahead. I'm sorry.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 11:49
No, you're fine.
Speaker: Orion Brown 11:53
I think we're out a little bit of a delay. One of the things I love to do, I'm also eating cookie, I got a black chocolate box cookie, because we turned four in August and I still have cookies leftover, cookies the whole time. It's no it's sealed, she vacuums sealed on so they're like perfect sugar. So, one of the things that she really loves to do is to tip like I'm in the States when I'm in other places, and I understand it's both on some places, but and this isn't me being like, “Ooo, I'm a baller” because I'm not I still like 10% that seems crazy crazy. But in a lot of places that can make or break a person's day, a week, a month very easily. And just being cognizant that we have not only monetary ways to impact people, but the way in which we behave and show up in those places can change lives, you can change the way people think about us. It can change the way people think about themselves. It's just huge. So, any place that we can encourage travel, I'm here for it. Cheers to that. And cheers to all the people that hooked you up for that trip.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 13:07
Oh yeah, it's amazing when I think back on it, and there’s so many people, my mom still lives where I grew up, real small, rural town. And there's so many people that she still will run into that I barely know but they're like, “How's Ronda?” “What’s Ronda doing?” “Where she lived now?” because I also have lived a ton of places. “Where does she live now?” “What's she doing?” “I bet that girl is running the world.” It's that seedling though, you know that, like, we understand that this can be big. Let's figure out all the little ways that we can contribute along the way. And it just really gave me that energy and passion to keep burning for travel.
Speaker: Orion Brown 13:59
I love that and they even I mean, whether they are travelers themselves or not. It's like even if they're living vicariously through that, there's something really powerful about that sense of community and reinvesting into that, and especially reinvesting in the young folks. And now I'm getting older, and I'm like “Ooh these young people, these young people.” but it's true. And it's those moments that you get to go “Oh, you have your passport, I'm so proud of you. Go enjoy it. Don't be afraid of anything. Anything that can happen to you there could happen to you here. So, at the end of the day, enjoy it. Get the most out of it. You made no mistake, if something bad happens, you may know, crazy, crazy serendipitous choices, something good happens. It's not about the happenstance. It's about the experience and what you take from it.” There's just something really beautiful about that.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 14:53
I don't think there's any place that I haven't been that I haven't taken something back with me. And I mean that from a mental emotional standpoint, not just a shot glass.
Speaker: Orion Brown 15:08
But them shot glasses are cute though, that’s really adorable, so adorable.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 15:14
There's always something that you kind of it at least for a moment just makes you pause Yes. And kind of take it in and that realization or that moment of clarity. And it's just like, “Yeah, this is why, this is why.”
Speaker: Orion Brown 15:33
Ooh, and that's… it's a statement and a question all in once. But it also is one that doesn't require any other language. It’s like when you're in that moment you're like, “This is why” period Absolutely. I love that. I love that. Tell us about some of the places that have been the most impactful wise for you.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 15:56
Let's see. So, I would say when I went to Australia, that was probably my most impactful vacation. First of all, it was the longest vacation that I've taken to date. So, I was gone for about 17 days. So that also was part of the reason.
Speaker: Orion Brown 16:17
Did you miss your bed or were you like “I can stay here longer?”
Speaker: Ronda Wright 16:20
I can stay here longer.
Speaker: Orion Brown 16:23
That's a good spot right there. Because I ain’t going to lie, it may not be the surrounding space, but something about the specific mattress that I've had my butt in for a certain amount of time that I've missed that matches, though. So that's a good spot. So, tell us about this trip.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 16:38
Yeah. So, it was I went to visit a friend that lived on the Sunshine Coast. So up near Brisbane, spent several days there, went down to Sydney, spent a few days in Sydney, and then went around that corner and spent a few days in Melbourne, and then went back up to the Sunshine Coast, I kind of like, finalize the trip. But I think what was so impactful for me on this trip was, I got to spend quite a bit of time talking to and meeting Aborigines and talking to some of the Aborigines in the area. So, there's this, I don't know, if it's like a national holiday or local, I think it's called ANZAC Day, where they're around a lot of the cities, there are a lot of different performances, and you'll see a lot of Aborigines out doing some of their more traditional performances or things like history lessons, and it may vary public. And so I just got emerged.
Speaker: Orion Brown 17:49
So, what you are saying is, this is their Black History Month.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 17:52
That's what it felt like, that's what it felt like. So, I just learned so much, because I knew like this much about their history and the role that they played in Australia being what it is today, and their whole thing that they went through with being ostracized and put to the side. And I didn't know any of that. I just knew a tiny little piece that we may have touched in world history at some point.
Speaker: Orion Brown 18:28
A little bit. It's like, “Okay, we know Australians are all supposed to be exiled because they were criminals. But what were the native people come from?” They had their own version of Christmas addicts and all these other people like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 18:41
And it was one of those moments of just feeling like we're not by ourselves. Yeah, we have our story as like black Americans. But there are a lot of stories that are similar to ours around the world. And it was just, I got engrossed in it. And I'm a little history geek, too. It's weird. I'm a techie. And you see the Georgia Tech and history nerd, too. But it was just touching, because I got to have like the one-on-one conversations with people. And it was interesting, the number of times people asked me, “Are you Aborigines?” No, no, I'm not. I'm a black American.
Speaker: Orion Brown 19:37
It's just the tone of my skin that threw you off.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 19:42
Or maybe the weave was really slamming that day. But it was just… that really touched me. And I think to be able to just have like those authentic conversations that were unscripted, not a part of a show. It just was just like, wow, this is life. This is what's happening how many miles away from what we know. And it's very similar to…
Speaker: Orion Brown 20:16
Same mayhem, foolishness everywhere, and you've hit on something really interesting. So maybe my weave is really popping today one of the things that we lost in sort of American history is the perspective that hair in many other places is not a delineator of your status. So, it is here, because we have people of African descent and brown skinned African descent people tend to have woolier hair. But when you go to places like Australia, where Aboriginal people have what we would consider good hair, if we would ever use that term. By the way, let's be really honest, most of us, it's like your hair is curly, you want it to be straight, if your hair straight from wanting to be curly. There’s no such thing. It's just the thing that you happen to want. But they happen to have like highly moisturize hair very shiny, the second the other, sometimes a blonde. And that doesn't make a difference, because it's the brownness of their skin, that the dead giveaway for them. And you look at places like India, Northern versus Southern India and the influences of the British Empire there and not to get super existential, but at the end of the day, understanding that the way in which your body presents can be marginalized in so many different ways. Whether it be your gender, whether it be your race, whether it be your hair texture, whether it be your skin tone, we all doing the same, we all dealing with the same mess is the same. For those of you who are who are religious, it's the same demons, same spirit, whatever you want to call it. It's the same intention of subjugation and using something that's obvious, the most obvious thing to subjugate people. But at the end of day, it's just an excuse.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 22:00
It's just an Oh, yeah, I had the taxi driver. I remember a taxi driver. He took a couple of guesses. He's like, “Are you Samoan?” And I'm thinking, “Samoan, really?”
Speaker: Orion Brown 22:17
So that's a really interesting thing. Because again, like feature wise, I can see that if you were somebody mama, I would not be surprised. I can't tell you exactly what feature it would be and I don't know if it's because your face is rounder or what. But that is the interesting thing. We have this very binary understanding of what race is in the United States. And if you don't travel, you don't realize that you could look like… I got a friend right now who's married to a dude he is straight up, straight up Polish. He looks like a black Cuban. And I tried, I was like “Girl, mum was with the milkman. You don’t understand” But I met both of his parents and he looks like both of his parents. It's just one of those things that phenotypically, when I say phenotypic, I'm talking about the stuff you can see not your genome, not your DNA, but the way it mixes together. And it shows up on the personhood. Baby, you could meet somebody in Russia with them thick lips.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 23:21
I love it.
Speaker: Orion Brown 23:23
And you're just like, “Seriously, Sis?” and she's like, “I am no sis to you.” you don't know. Yeah, we're much more alike than we are different. And we don't realize that but, in these spaces, in places that tell us that we're so different, it's like, “They full a mess.” But yes, you could be a Samoan Mama.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 23:42
And I'm going to take that out. Ima claim it.
Speaker: Orion Brown 23:46
Out here. Just doing her thing to do a haka. Oh, I love that. I love that. Kay 2020 said facts, facts. It's true. It's true. So, tell us, you talked about meeting Aboriginal people and kind of getting that connection in that perspective. But like, in that this was the longest trip you were on. But what are some things that gave you that signal? Like “This is a powerful moment for me.”
Speaker: Ronda Wright 24:21
I would say when I think back and I think one of the things that stuck with me most and was pretty powerful. I was able to go to a Buddhist temple while I was there. So, I'll start by saying I'm not Buddhist. But, because I'm super open minded. There was an opportunity to go to a Buddhist temple they were having. I forgot what it's called, but it's almost like an open day open to the public. So, they were also having on their grounds and one of the performances for ANZAC Day.
Speaker: Orion Brown 25:05
Black history month. I'm just like, I'm telling ya losing this job, well is their equivalent, is their equivalent, and I'm not mad at it. Like we should be having things. We have stuff in our churches and stuff too. So yeah.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 25:14
Right, right. So being on the ground so we drove like, all the way up this like long, windy felt like a mountain, there might have been a massive hill, but all the way up to the top is where they had the community. So, they were pretty isolated from everyone else. So, we drove all the way up and there’s all the flags. You see, people just kind of in their community, chickens walking around. Yeah, its own little community, like living off the grid. And I went into the temple, and it is all new to me, I'm learning about some of the different figures there and what they represent and what they mean. And I'm taking it in as like, “Oh, I've heard that name before, but I didn't know how this was connected.” And then we have this, after that experience, then we have this performance where we get to meet more Aborigines and talk to them, and I'm learning more of their story and hearing all the connectivity, and it just felt like, it's one of those things, it was like a ringing home moment of, this is why I leave, this is why I leave home because I get to see and get exposure and experience to something that… where am I going to get that in Georgia?
Speaker: Orion Brown 27:03
And what kind of stigma will be applied to it in Georgia. Right?
Speaker: Ronda Wright 27:06
Speaker: Orion Brown 27:08
There's something to be said for, then people can disagree. But there's something to be said for the anthropological exploration of other people's religiosity. Whether you believe you are of the religion that is right, solely or not, there is something very interesting and it enables you to understand people better when you get in the center of their religiosity, ground and understand where they're coming from. You don't have to accept it. You want to pray in a way you don't want to, like I've heard like “Oh, I'm not going to go on a temple because I don't really know that…” you don't have to go in there and pray, they don't force you on your knees. And I wouldn't personally, I wouldn't go to a place that anybody will force me to pray to anything like I just, I wouldn't. Oftentimes these are great opportunities just to see and to take it in just as Catholic churches and I use Catholicism as an example because it is oftentimes very ornate and very temple like when you look at the stained glass it's telling stories when you look at the statues, they're telling stories, it is the same thing if you're in a Buddhist temple, and it doesn't matter what it is that the religion is, it tells you a history and an insight into how people want to live their lives. Now how do you do because everybody sucks at their religion, I'm just going to put that out there we all kind of suck a little bit at the thing that we believe is right. But the way in which we want to live and the way in which we intend to.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 28:41
It's like the perfect way to just see somebody where they are, like Holy see them. And understand at least try to understand and get some semblance of why they think the way they think. So, it was so just eye opening just allowing yourself to be that open and free to understand it just to be quiet. And just be that was… I think that just resonated for me to be able to take that all in in a day. It was a lot
Speaker: Orion Brown 29:27
And you know what the so the compare and contrast for me. And again, this is not meant to offend anyone if it does, I apologize. But like going into temples, like in Japan, I grew up in black American church, so it's always loud. gospel is always loud. We're always wailing, we're always crying. We're always praying aloud; we're always worshiping which is beautiful. But there is also something really beautiful and contemplated about being a very quiet place and oftentimes these temples are, when I tell you pin drop quiet, like, I'm not sure there's other people breathing even though I know there's other people there. And even though I'm not, in my own mind connecting with whatever the deities are there, I'm connecting with my own God and my own deity. There's something really beautiful about that. And there's also something just really human about that, because we're creating spaces, that enable us to connect with the divine in the way in which we think the divine wants to connect with us. And there's just something really sweet about that. It's like when you see these stories, and I'm going to use a bad example. But it's like Palestinians and Israelis, and it's like, but everybody wants to protect their kid or whatever that thing is, that connects us, that makes us go, “Oh, we shouldn't be at war with each other. Oh, we shouldn't be at odds.” This idea that we want to create a space to the divine, not because we want to be popular or rich, but because we want to be connected to our reason for being a baby. You just sit there and it's like I don't care that she got 15 arms, I really don't. Because I’m not connecting with her. I'm connecting with the divine in me and whatever. But also, I'm connecting with the humanity of the people around me. I may not relate to you on exactly what you believe. But I relate the fact that you have a yearning inside of you. And I can respect that. I have the exact same.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 31:30
Yeah, when I can touch your hand and feel your energy. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker: Orion Brown 31:38
And your intent, and your intent, because at the end of the day, I don't think any of us mean each other. For the most part, I don't think most of us mean each other ill. We disagree with each other. And oftentimes our disagreements, because we actually want the best for each other, and we just disagree on what the best is. And so, there's something really beautiful about a gong, about a song, about a meditation, about an arm, and it's like, yeah, we can talk about all the metaphysical implications. But at the end of the day, you've got a bunch of people who are like, “I can leave all this other stuff behind, and show up to this place, and try to connect with the reason that I'm here.” And that is so beautiful. And girl, the art is dope, too.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 32:26
Oh, it is, it is. And it's like, again, seeing something in a book, or on TV, it's not the same. It's not the same. You got to be able to see it with your own eyes, and just take it in, take the time to breathe it in.
Speaker: Orion Brown 32:49
Yes. And again, not to get too deep with it. But I have to say, haven grown up in Baptist Church and Pentecostal church early on, I had a very huge aversion to being in spaces that were religious, outside of my religious beliefs. And I had to get to a place of this is history. And there's something moving about human history that you can take something away from and still distance yourself from the things that you don't feel like are spiritually the right places that you should be. And so, it's really interesting to me. Because we find such and again in the US and we talked about color, but like in the US, we find such so many ways to devise ourselves from each other. And it's just, there's something really beautiful about having these human moments, whether it's laughing for the person that doesn't speak your language, or whether it's having a spiritual moment in a space that isn't typically spiritual to you. So, I really love that I have to say, when I went to Japan, and I went to the temples, I had such an amazing experience, walking through these temples and seeing how people explained their culture and explain, arguably, if you take away the religious piece, you could say, people explain their histories through lore, they explain their histories through story. And even that is fantastic to see how they think about it. Why is your God? or multiple Gods space the way they are, it's a reflection of what they believe human nature to be. And it's really cool and let's not let's just take it a step back from you in that the things that we hold most sacred we put the most effort into. So, the art is dope, y'all, the art is on point is beyond on point is, I'm going to painstakingly tap into this bronze until it gets perfect and it's breathtaking.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 34:54
Yeah, yeah. If you're a lover of art, you have to when you're trying, go to a temple, go to a mosque, go check out someone else's understanding and the way that they think about religion, it is amazing. I'll be going back to oh my gosh, the name escapes me but it's a large masking in Casa Blanca and Morocco. I'll be going back there in less than two weeks Yes, but it's just the art, the intricacy of the design of buildings, Windows doors. I love doors.
Speaker: Orion Brown 35:49
I'm here for the big the big doors.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 35:52
Oh, yeah. So, it's like you see the passion. You see, like you said, what's important to them poring through, and it's their history, it's their life. And it's what they feel like, they want people to know and understand about them and their culture. And that's it's just a beautiful thing about traveling and getting exposure to other areas because you get to see that in so many different fashions and forms.
Speaker: Orion Brown 36:24
And you hit the nail on the head, it's even about legacy it's not even just other people it's “What do I want my children to carry on? So let me edge this in stone. So, my children will carry on from this.” which is like, it's beautiful, it's insane. We all have this sense of mortality and like how do we make these things last forever. And then when you go to places like Egypt and you go to places like ancient Rome, and you see that it has… it’s not forever, but it's lasted a very long time. There is an amazing will of spirit that human beings have, no matter how you attribute it, like, we're like, we will not disappear. I know I will die I might live 60 years and actually most of these people only kind of live 60 years. Let's be honest, some of them 30 Yeah, back in the world, they need to live that long. They were like that would have been a ship. Yes, they did. Their dental system was all jacked up. Nothing, but they were like it so long as I'm on this planet, I will leave a mark on it. And I want my children's children to see it. And there's something really beautiful that comes through religion and other spaces of culture that we can see that in so that's, oh, I could find suffocate all day, but I really love it. Some of it is creepy. I'm not going to lie. I think it was in Croatia, that they had a saint like, pickled. I thought it was a statue and then I realized it was a person that had been put in like an airtight container. And so, they pickle this thing. And I was like, that's creepy.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 38:18
Not mummify them but pickled them.
Speaker: Orion Brown 38:19
Don't be pickling, I mean I guess it’s not pickled if it’s not vinegar, but you know what I mean. Like they were preserves. Like if somebody were to tap on the glass, they probably like disintegrate into a mummy. But you will put hot sauce on them. I'm not saying they're pickle like that. You are on the same but there's definitely moments realized “Whoo, okay, so that's what we're doing.” But even within that, it's like the reverence that people felt for other people. Whether it was predicated on something real, whether it was predicated on something that people wanted to believe in, whether it was political, there's something still really powerful about that idea that this town revered this person so much that they put them in a box and tried to pickle them for the age. I find it fascinating.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 39:06
Speaker: Orion Brown 39:09
I love it. I love it.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 39:11
So yes, it's a beautiful thing.
Speaker: Orion Brown 39:15
And it's and it's an it's an experience in and of itself, which is really nice. Um, so you talked about Australia being really impactful for you and being a long-term trip. Where are some other places that you've gone that you… if somebody is trying to get the Eat, Pray Love on? Like, where would you recommend people go to get that sort of human spiritual experience? And not to be woo woo, we're just sort of like connecting with people connecting with themselves connecting with the earth connecting with God, like what are some places that you feel are your top list like your top three or four?
Speaker: Ronda Wright 39:55
Hmm, okay, Surprisingly, Chile.
Speaker: Orion Brown 40:04
Oh, why is this surprising?
Speaker: Ronda Wright 40:07
It's not on a lot of people's radars. Okay, but I'll tell you that. first of all the food's amazing. Okay, so there you're not going to go wrong with me if you like me. I'm from the country, so I like a good steak and some give me some good meat. It's phenomenal. Food is phenomenal. The men? Definitely not bad to look at.
Speaker: Orion Brown 40:41
We’re just looking.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 40:47
That's right. And then from the spiritual side, usually, a lot of people think more, thinking about the ocean or those sorts of things. I went to spent a couple days flew up to the Atacama Desert. And that place is, like, almost otherworldly. There's some pictures that I took there that it's like, we kind of climbed up on the side of a ridge. And it looks like you're on the moon or something and there are just a few moments where I mean I've sat there by myself in just in solitude and it's like, you just have this moment of “Ooh, this is our This is Earth. This is so much different than where I was yesterday.” And there's moments where I was like right in an area at the almost like foothills near the Andes mountains and the moon's coming in and you got these gigantic range of mountains it just feels like the nature experience there for me was unreal. And I just loved it. Loved it. So, Chile. It's one of those places
Speaker: Orion Brown 42:17
So, I got to ask. Is this an alternative location to go to prior to this Antarctic trip because our sister is going to be taken on our vacation days so like, do we need to go to Chile before? What's the deal?
Speaker: Ronda Wright 42:31
Yeah, Chile definitely would be a spot for you. Santiago will be good to spend some time there right along the ocean. You've also got… I think I got it mixed up. Valparaiso is right on the water.
Speaker: Orion Brown 42:51
We’re not talking about Valparaiso Indiana for the Midwestern people. Valparaiso Indiana ain’t nothing happening, sorry Valparaiso, but ain’t nothing happening in Valparaiso Indiana. But Valparaiso Chile that’s where you want to be.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 43:05
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that definitely could be a good spot for you as you think about something in between. Beautiful.
Speaker: Orion Brown 43:16
So, we're going to the Antarctic in December. Is it December? December 27th.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 43:20
November, late November.
Speaker: Orion Brown 43:23
I thought it was December 27 to the January 4. That's my Morocco trip. My bad y’all. November because I'm thinking next look. So, a side note. I was like, I need to book a trip that's close enough that I'm not going to pull my hair out because my hair is already thin. Yeah, look at that. Look at that part. That's been, so I needed something closer. And that is my Morocco trip. That's in December 27 of this year. So, November of next year.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 43:56
20th. Correct. through December 9. See if I get it, it's going to be inexperience. I tell you, for anybody that has never thought about going to Antarctica, for a lot of us. It's our bucket list trip. And I'm trying to close this little thing or I and I hope I don't miss anything up. Okay. So, for so many of us, it's a lot of a lot of times the last continent visit. And one of those bucket list destinations that you always had on your list, but just hadn't figured out when you're going on how you're going to get there. So perfect, perfect opportunity to go with a group and experience Antarctica. And I tell you and I'm not trying to dissuade anyone from going but I'm trying to take as many black and brown people to the Antarctica at one time as I can a lot of the operators and the folks that are there and working all the time, they see a lot of our brothers and sisters that look a little bit different than us. I'm trying to have them think “Where are all these black people coming from?
Speaker: Orion Brown 45:23
And let's be clear they got photographers on the boat so you so you basically take a cruise ship out and they have photographers on the boat and if you're like me out everybody photographers’ photos, but I'm about to buy all these photos baby. I'm about to tan before I go. I am not going to lie I'm bright. I know I'm high yellow. I'm chocolatey and I'm going to show up so on all the pictures. I just had this nice brown on the white background I am not going to lie
Speaker: Ronda Wright 45:51
I want to see that contrast between me and all the whites.
Speaker: Orion Brown 46:01
Got to be out all of it. We bought the oil this whole mf down. I even I'm so excited. I'm so excited. Yeah, so when we go so it's in November, December. So, for the southern hemisphere, that is the summertime. And if I understand it correctly, when we get to the tip of South America, it's summer there but then when we take the boat out a couple of days then we get to the cold of the Arctic.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 46:29
Correct. Sorry. It'll be there Austral summer.
Speaker: Orion Brown 46:33
So technically, I guess you get a tan before she gets on the boat. Like that's just that's really, I could go to the beach.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 46:41
Yeah, because they’re opposite us. So, it'll be the dead of winter for us and it'll be summer for them. For the southern hemisphere.
Speaker: Orion Brown 46:52
Yeah, so this is going to get a tan, I don't know what a bitch is going to look like, but a bitch is going to wear a bikini and a bitch is going to need a tan. So that when we have our coats on and it's going to be a little chocolate chip in the middle.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 47:08
Our starting point is in Buenos Aires. So, you also get your fix of spending time at Buenos Aires. And I know I'm going to go a few days early, because it'll be coming right off of Thanksgiving, and explore.
Speaker: Orion Brown 47:26
Okay. You going to be in Buenos Aries or you going to be… okay so I need to come meet you in Buenos Aries but I want to go to Chile too though. I want to do chili, or maybe I should do. Should I do Chile on the way back then?
Speaker: Ronda Wright 47:38
Ooh, that's nice, because you'll actually already be in the area. Our charter flight will take us to Buenos Aries.
Speaker: Orion Brown 47:50
It will be fancy y'all.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 47:51
Yes, yes. So that'll be perfect, because you wouldn't have a long flight to get over to the other coast. So that's right. That's very doable. Orion.
Speaker: Orion Brown 48:03
I'm not bad at all. And so y'all for y'all who are like, well, how much? Look I analyze this ain't a cheap trip. This ain't a weekend in the Caribbean. How's ever, one, I got real hype. And I still need to find somebody either. I need to find a boothang or sister friend. Because they have a cabin. Y'all, this cabin. I guess the total people for the cabin is like three people. But it's a huge cat. It's like a little apartment. And it has a balcony. And on the balcony. It has a hot tub. Let me say that again. It has a hot tub. So, you're overlooking like the Arctic in your hot tub. kicking it. And I that is a goal in my life. I don't even need like; I was looking at the markup. And I was like, “Yeah, but I still need to do it.” Y’all, I hope y'all like come through. And again, this isn't even a promo, I always like to big up my sisters and what's going on. But I'm putting money into this.
I'm actually paying and go on this trip. And I'm so geeked because often times I will see my less melanated friends, and they'll be like, “Yeah, I did that trip with my dad last year. Yeah, I did this.” And it's like, I've never, growing up. That's just me. I'm not saying you maybe you did have a different childhood, but I never was like, “Oh yeah, I'm totally going to go to Antarctica one day in my life.” I'm totally going to hit all the continents. Yeah, that's going to happen. I never took that for granted. And so, in so far as I'm building a company right now, I’m raising funding for right now. I am also taking the time to take these opportunities because the legacy of my ancestry isn't just in my company. It's in my experiences, in my ability to go out and see things and bring that back and share that with people. And so, I hope you all kick it with us. I'm Ronda I'm sure has a link to it if you guys are interested. If not, I mean we're going to kick it for you. We're going to put up like all the video, you're going to see me, hair up in a bun in the middle of the night be like, “Y’all. I’m in the Antarctic.” as we do, but I really love that we have people like Ronda out here creating experiences that are not pedantic. It's not the stuff that you like, “Okay, so we all going to Jamaica.” I love to Jamaica. Don't get me wrong, I love Jamaica with all my heart. But it's easy to get to. It's easy to do. And for me, it's how much can I make my ancestors proud by going for the challenge, by going for the place that I was told or that they were told or that their parents were told they couldn't go and showing up and showing out we’re going to be ignorant but there might be some Hennessy. I ain’t going to lie, I don't even normally drink any. But there's going to be some henny on Antarctica, just on principle, and it's going to be white henny, which by the way, isn't even good. henny. Let's just be honest, it's not good henny. But just on principle is going to be white henny, on Antarctica, if I'm there.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 51:16
So, for the white continent, for the white continent.
Speaker: Orion Brown 51:19
And we're going to have such a dope time. I'm so excited. How many people do you have booked already? What are you looking at? How many chocolate chips can we…?
Speaker: Ronda Wright 51:30
So far, we already have six cabins accounted for. And I know that doesn't sound like a lot. Correct. And I just started talking about this and publicizing it about maybe two weeks ago. So, people are coming through.
Speaker: Orion Brown 51:48
You know how we are. This is why we get mad about girl’s trips and group trips, because we'd be like, “We go out on these trips together.” And then once it gets to the point that you have to put that deposit down, people start falling off. We are a whole year out and people already booking this because they don't want to miss the opportunity. And I'm personally really excited. I haven't been to Oceana, so I haven't been to Australia and New Zealand. So that will be my last sort of continental mass to go to, but going through South America and then go in Antarctica is huge. For me, that is absolutely huge. The first time I stepped foot in Africa on the continent of Africa, that was huge for me. And so, I do think about not to be so existential, but I do think about the people that came before, I think about my parents. My parents are not thinking about going to Antarctica.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 52:47
Same. same. My mom's like, “An what?” “Who now?”
Speaker: Orion Brown 52:53
With somebody before us, and it may be two generations back, it may be six generations back, but somebody before us was like, “Ooh, I would love to go there. One day I heard of this place” and to be the one to do it. There is something just impactful about that. So yeah, I won't be I want to cry and it's going to freeze, but I'm going to be cute. I'm going to be like Elsie.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 53:17
We all going to ugly cry.
Speaker: Orion Brown 53:21
It's going to be great.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 53:22
Can you imagine the first time that we get off the Zodiac and step foot on Antarctica? Can you just imagine that moment?
Speaker: Orion Brown 53:32
Wait wait wait wait so when I imagine the moment in my head at least three of us are twerking, I'm not going to lie at least three of us are like, “Aaaa” I don't even know how to twerk properly so that's going to be a goal for me prior to the trip is to learn how to work so I can twerk on Antarctica on South pole. Because the whole job is to keep you keep the baby off the pole. But I’ll be on the pole dancing. And so, I got to learn how to do it right. All black culture but that is a fun and silly part of it. And I want some Megan, the stallion blasting and I want to be like, and I've got to pull my back out. Let's not lie. I'm old, but I'm not mad at it. I'm here for it.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 54:21
That's right. I love it. I love it.
Speaker: Orion Brown 54:23
So, what other trips are you planning for 2022? What kind of places are you taking people to? And how are you thinking about that in relation to COVID?
Speaker: Ronda Wright 54:35
Yeah, so I'll tell you the second group trip that I have planned for 2022. And these when I say group trips, these are the ones that I I'm attending and leading. So, I plan a ton of group trips for people that you know them and their friends and their family but these I'll be a part of. The second one is to Greece and that's in May so much sooner. And Greece, we'll spend a few days on the mainland. So, we'll have the first evening is so fun, and I love this, but I have a local guide that's going to be with us and we're basically going to go out that evening and have a nightlife. Yeah, yeah, so we're going to go to three different districts and check out the nightlife. So, you'll get to have your time meet to meet with the locals. See how they do things in Greece. See what that nightlife scene is like how many times you get to do that in other countries, and have a lot of guides there with us to make sure that we safe.
Speaker: Orion Brown 55:40
So, here's the thing. So, this is like having a chaperone, y'all. So, I know some people are really snobby. And I say this, because I was really snobby about group trips. Back in the day, I was like, “Nah, group trips are lame. They just take you places you don't really want to be.” But there is nothing like having a chaperone when you just want to get lit. And you don't even have to be imbibing or doing anything. But when you just want to be free, and not be conscious of your surroundings and enjoy yourself and immerse. And I know that's hard, particularly for a lot of us like I'm a city girl. So, it's very hard to not be cognizant of my surroundings at all times and not be like, I can't have too many drinks, and I got to make sure it's covered and all of these other things. Yeah, being a woman traveling is one hard thing, being a woman of color traveling is a whole other thing. But when you have these groups, you have people who are professionally trained, and they go out and they do this so much, they can spot pretty much anything. They'll be like, that guy's not the pickpocket you about 10 minutes, so you got to put your stuff out. And that's my only job is to listen to them. That's your only job, you can just a fully immerse and enjoy yourself.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 56:51
Yes. So, I have one on deck for us to make sure that we can fully enjoy and somebody is watching our back. We're going to have a trip out to Delphi, feel like I always say that wrong, Delphi. Back in the day, it was like they called it the naval of the earth because that's where people had their Oracle read.
Speaker: Orion Brown 57:15
So, wait, wait, is it the outie? Or the innie? Inquiring minds want to know. Is it the outie or the innie?
Speaker: Ronda Wright 57:25
Yes, yeah, we'll see when we get there. We'll see. And we have a little time in Athens, a city tour of Athens. And so, if you love history, you get that whole perspective on the first part of the trip. And then on the fourth day, is that the fourth day? Yep, we leave on a cruise around the Greek islands. So, all the all the people that love the flying dress photoshoots and all the Greek beach pictures, and this is your part of the trip. So, we will hit Mikonos, Patmos, kusadasi, Turkey, Crete, Rhodes, and Santorini. So, you get the full package of the Greek island experience. So, it really is going to be that, “Hey, we're taking in the full Greek culture here. You've got your mainland, and you're also going to get the experience the islands” and it's going to be a great time. It's going to be a great time.
Speaker: Orion Brown 58:36
Yeah. And so, this is my question I'm going to put on my black traveler hat. How are people seeing black travelers? there? Are people nice to them. Are they cool with them? Is it weird? Is it fetishy? Like in Italy? What's the deal?
Speaker: Ronda Wright 58:54
So, from my experience, and the other travelers that I've seen there, people are going to be kind, you're not going to have any racist type issues. In a few areas, you may get some stares, just because yeah, you're a little bit different for them. You may get some stares, but people aren't going to be rude to you, or treat you in any kind of way that makes you feel like, I should have never come here, but you might get some stares. So that's just an awareness point.
Speaker: Orion Brown 59:40
And what about as women, like, I'm about to play all the minority cards right here because that’s the stuff I think about when I'm traveling. I'm like, is this safe for me to be a woman or does everybody just like I'm not going to travel to Saudi by myself. I just, I think it's a beautiful place. But I ain't trying to be in that kind of drama. So, like, what is it like, woman to travel there, and obviously we have the benefit of a group, but like, what is that sort of experience like?
Speaker: Ronda Wright 1:00:06
Yeah, another one that I haven't seen any issues with, I have not traveled there solo. However, as a solo woman, I don't know what the experience would be different. But traveling with a couple of girlfriends prior, I have not felt any different type of way. And I can say that the entire time that we're on the mainland, we will, for all of our various activities have a local guide that's with us. So, we will have people that are attached to us that are local.
Speaker: Orion Brown 1:00:41
As Mary J said, “No drama in our lives”
Speaker: Ronda Wright 1:00:45
Exactly. Because we want to enjoy ourselves, we want to enjoy our full experience. And then the cruise obviously is going to be with more people. It won't just be our group; more people will be with us. But all the other experiences will be private.
Speaker: Orion Brown 1:01:04
And that's the thing, like I feel like as women, as women of color travelers, and if we have some guys on, the particularly people of color, we just want to make sure that our vacation is a vacation. It's a vacation from the mayhem and the foolishness. So, it sounds like this is a good place to go. And just like chill and enjoy. And I honestly, I love to go into the world and just being an American. My country of origin as a label really doesn't bother me. Because within my culture of origin, there's so many other labels that are there. And so, there's something for me very freeing to just be American, and they got their preconceived notions. And we clearly know that all the Chad's and the Becky's have gone on spring break and ruined it for a lot of people, but even to be lumped with them. And I don't mean this in a flattering way, but like, I love the fact that I can be judged in the same playing field as everybody else.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 1:02:13
You'll be amazed at just how many people just want to know your experience. How many times people might just say, so like, how do you what do you think about this thing, some political issue or something that they saw on their local television? they I've met so many people when we've been in the heat of things with other countries. And it wasn't about Ah, you Americans, blah, blah, blah, but more. So how do you guys really think about this? Yeah, exactly. And been able to have like, some deep conversations about “Let me tell you have this really is and let me tell you what it shows on the media. And let me tell you what it looks like every day.” So, a whole other topic.
Speaker: Orion Brown 1:03:08
But truth be told, and here's the other thing, truth be told, usually those conversations happen over food or beverages. There is something so human about being like “I need to eat something good and connect with another person.” When I tell you if you've never for those who are watching if you've never gone to another country and connected with somebody that you don't even really speak the same language. Baby there is something powerful about breaking bread with a person that's so… I don't say diametrically opposed, but opposed to the way that you grew up, the process or the place that you live at home. And having that connection with somebody and realizing that it's not that far off. It really isn't. It's so “Oh, no, I need to get out of this country, I need to get out of this country.” I love y'all, I love y’all. I really do. But it beats my soul to have those connections. And let's be honest, there's nothing. I think there's nothing better than sitting and drinking with a person that you don't know. I personally like. You had your little liquor or your ouzo or whatever is, for that country, and sitting there and talking about nothing. Oh, baby.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 1:04:25
You're learning so much.
Speaker: Orion Brown 1:04:29
You learn so much and then laughing at kids running by and like these little things, not laughing at them so they have to go to therapy later on. Don't come hit me up in the comments later. I mean, like, being like, “Oh, that's a cute baby.” “Oh, she's bossing her mom.” or whatever it might be having those moments and realizing that in so far as the world tries to divide us as much as it can. We have so much more in common, and ain’t nun like somebody putting a foot in dinner and ain’t nothing like watching a beautiful sunset and ain’t nothing like seeing a baby laugh. Wait, how about this? I was in Ireland, and I was watching kids. This is going to make me sound weird, but I swear I'm not. I was watching kids at a school and they were all little gingers, which by the way, it's hard to find kids that are naturally redheads around the world, but you can find them in Ireland. And you see all these little ginger kids running around. giggling. I was absolutely spellbound. I was just saying, “What the heck is this?” This is like going to the zoo for the first time and not to anthropomorphize these kids into animals. But like, it was just, it was spellbinding to realize the human condition is so rare and so beautiful in so many different ways. And while I don't put them up on a pedestal, it's something I haven't seen before. And it was really nice to be able to see.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 1:05:55
Yeah, Oh, absolutely.
Speaker: Orion Brown 1:05:59
Oh, my goodness, girl. So, we've been kicking it for an hour, actually over an hour. So, I'm going to wrap up, but tell everybody where they can find you and where they can find this trip. I hope y'all come because you will miss out. I am going to be like, I'm still salty. I won't. I will have a great time. I got to be funny about it. I will not, we’re about to kick it, me around about that a best time in Antarctica. And if I can find my way to Greece, I will find my way to that Grecian trip as well. But tell everybody where they can find you where they can find your trips.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 1:06:32
Yes, so you can find my trips. First of all, I'm at The Wright getaway that's T-H-E W-R-I-G-H-T getaway. And then you'll find the link to a link tree that shows both of the trips listed there. So, you'll find a landing page for both that has a ton of detail. Everything from deposit amounts to what we'll do day by day to any other questions that you have. Even for an article I have a video of the ship that you can take a look at. It's beautiful. There's a science center. I love it.
Speaker: Orion Brown 1:07:21
So, wait, hold on timeout. I just went with my girlfriend from college. She has a four-year-old at home and we went to the Field Museum in Chicago over this weekend. When I tell you, I was only damn person over here looking for a Diplodocus dinosaur, because I'm a nerd. If y'all are nerds, they actually take you on expeditions where you get to do real science. This isn't like some fake like travel science. It's like we're doing experiments. Let's be honest, you get to pay to come along once you get to pay to come along and do real experiments.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 1:07:58
Oh yeah, you're contributing to actual research. I promise you for Antarctica, not that I'm downplaying Greece at all. But for Antarctica, I have been doing the research and work on this for well over three months. And I'm floored. I'm so ready. I can go tomorrow. So, this is going to be an amazing trip. But yes, in my bio, you can find the links for both of them. And I'll also drop it in the comments below when this end so if anybody wants to go back to that.
Speaker: Orion Brown 1:08:37
Love it, y'all seriously, I was watching the video and so my anticipation was I'm going to do this like any other cruise trip. And again, this sounds really salesy. This is not my intention. I'm just telling you how I'm thinking about it. But I'm like okay any other cruise I'm going to get like you know the minimum room because I'm going to be out and doing stuff but baby I saw the videos rooms and I was like, “Oh, they had to ball out just a little bit it’s a special year.” The rooms are gorgeous. The rooms are absolutely gorgeous and they still have like the Lido decks and spaces that you can go to with the hot tubs and the heated pools and all of that stuff but I'm like, “But it ain’t the same as having your own bath tub.”
Speaker: Ronda Wright 1:09:23
Oh yeah, I promise you when you look at the video you're going to be like, wow.
Speaker: Orion Brown 1:09:27
You would want to spend money you don't have, I ain't going to lie. I'm all I'm looking at and I'm like, “I don't really got that but I bet I can get that.” It's so dope and if nothing else, we'll be taking you guys along on trip we'll be doing some cool black shadow box stuff. We will be doing some cool right get away stuff while we're out there. But yeah, Miss Ronda is always fun to kick it with you.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 1:09:55
Yay. Same here, Ryan. Love, love, love.
Speaker: Orion Brown 1:09:59
Thank you. So much for coming. Thank you for sharing your experiences. I think one of the beautiful things is that you're very, very open about not only like what the experience was sort of externally what it was internally, and I think that that helps all of us to understand where we can go, what we can do and how we can fulfill ourselves. It’s Wednesday night, y'all. I'm at the bottom of my rosae glass. I hope you're at the bottom of your Pino, your rosae, whatever you got, the bottom of your diet coke, whatever it is. I hope you're at the bottom of it. I hope you had a good time. I hope for just this last hour you forgot about the Bs, baby because there's so much of it, forgot about the BS, and had a good time and kicked it with us. I really appreciate you. I hope you have a wonderful week going forward. Same to you miss Ronda, thank you so much for joining us for it. I appreciate you girl.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 1:11:00
All right. See you next time.
Speaker: Orion Brown 1:11:04
Yes, next time. We'll see you guys next week. All right.
Speaker: Ronda Wright 1:11:08
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